Growth After Headcount

How to scale a company with AI instead of people.

Growth After Headcount is a book and podcast by Haris Odobasic on what comes next: companies that choose the system over the hire.

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Can one person build a business that used to take 142? Explore that question with me on the podcast and in the book.

The Podcast

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Every day, a new AI-native company is created that challenges an incumbent player. Who will win?

The podcast features conversations with AI-native founders who challenge incumbents, leaders transforming their businesses to become AI-native, investors deciding what a lean company is worth, and, of course, you will hear what I have to say.

EP 00123 JUL 2026
Why Growth After Headcount?
Haris Odobasic — Host & author

I've spent ten years building revenue teams. Now I'm documenting their replacement.

EP 00223 JUL 2026
100x the human, skip the headcount
Amos Bar-Joseph — Founder & CEO, Swan AI

Why investing in top talent plus AI tokens beats hiring ten average reps every time.

EP 00330 JUL 2026
From $25M ARR to $100M without hiring
Omar Ismail — COO, Ascend

The path from $25M to $100M without hiring, using Claude Code to scale a travel tech company.

EP 0046 AUG 2026
You need a revenue system
Jacco van der Kooij — Founder & CEO, Winning By Design

Why people-led growth loses to a revenue system, and what he recommends to build today.

EP 00513 AUG 2026
The autonomous business (L5) runs itself
Adam Robinson — Founder & CEO, RB2B

How Adam built $8.6M ARR with almost no team, and why first-principles design matters.

EP 00620 AUG 2026
How AI impacts a €12 billion SaaS portfolio
Bram Kaashoek — Partner & COO, Main Capital Partners

The investor perspective on AI-native companies — and how incumbents have to change.

EP 00727 AUG 2026
Building the 10x accountant
Nick Knuppe — Co-founder & CEO, neno

How an AI-native tax company is replacing traditional accounting firms.

EP 0083 SEP 2026
Stop Hiring Humans
Jaspar Carmichael-Jack — Founder & CEO, Artisan

The most viral ad campaign in SaaS and the real story behind it.

EP 00910 SEP 2026
From senior engineers to AI agents
Ahmed Elfouly — Chief Engineer, OpenAtlas

He led senior engineers at Booking.com. Now the team is AI.

EP 010 + More episodes coming

The Book

Growth After Headcount is my attempt to make sense of AI. No technology promises more for humanity.

AI will impact every aspect of society and business. My own experience is in growing businesses, and this is where I look at the use of AI.

From the first interviews for the book, I can already say it is the biggest gold rush in human history. The prize is a one-billion-dollar company run by one person. Will it be possible? I don't know yet. But I know some people are close.

In the book, I will tell the stories of the founders, leaders, and investors who embark on these journeys. It is about their dreams, hopes, and the future they want to create. Will you be a part of it?

Haris Odobasic on stage at Main Insight Event DACH 2026.

Haris Odobasic

I run Revenue Wizards, where we build GTM engines for B2B companies with Revenue Operations principles and AI.

My first book, The RevOps Pendulum, argued that Revenue Operations sets the foundation of growth through alignment. Growth After Headcount picks up where it left off: the next swing takes companies out of people-led growth altogether.

History rarely announces itself. I think the shift to AI-run companies is one of those moments, and Growth After Headcount is my attempt to write it down from the inside. The waitlist is below.

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We'll send the first chapter when it's ready — probably late Q3. And a heads-up the day episode one drops.